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Post by Koinonia on Dec 6, 2006 10:20:02 GMT -5
True and well stated. Good insight in comparing the smokers.
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Post by Sauerkraut on Dec 6, 2006 10:28:03 GMT -5
We are after all a secular nation and the Muslims don't understand that. They don't understand why we have man's laws here- instead of God's laws to live by. It's all new to them I guess.
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Post by mrsp on Dec 6, 2006 17:39:20 GMT -5
We are after all a secular nation Elsewhere you have said our government in based in Christianity. Which is it? Ya can't have it both ways.
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Post by mrsp on Dec 6, 2006 17:41:29 GMT -5
I sure don't understand why someone would brag about being a biggot. But to hate an entire group of people because of the actions of a handful of zealots....? My mind just boggles at that. You're a "bigot" and "hate" someone if you "have a problem with them"? That's all Porky said. And in light of what's going on in the world today, I see nothing wrong with that. It's called being vigilant. Since the context was that all Muslims are to be distrusted simply because they are Muslims whether they are immigrants or born in the US, yeah, it qualifies as bigotry. Anytime you distrust all in a group regardless of anything else, its bigotry.
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Post by Koinonia on Dec 6, 2006 17:47:05 GMT -5
Call it what you want. It's also smart. If a big yellow dog attacks you and bites you, next time you will be bigoted against big yellow dogs (if you're smart). It doesn't mean you HATE big yellow dogs, it just means your smart enough to watch out for them more closely.
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Post by Koinonia on Dec 6, 2006 17:50:26 GMT -5
We are after all a secular nation Elsewhere you have said our government in based in Christianity. Which is it? Ya can't have it both ways. It's pretty clear. It is based on Christian principals. Just read many of the US documents and it is becoming more and more secular, thanks to secular humanists and atheists.
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Post by mrsp on Dec 6, 2006 17:50:50 GMT -5
Call it what you want. It's also smart. No your attitude is not smart. I am smart enough to know that not all Muslims, not even most Muslims, hate and want to kill nonMuslims. I am smart enough to know that the hate and killing is not representative of the real Muslim world view. I am smart enough to know that engaging in bigotry diminishes the one holding the bigoted view point.
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Post by Koinonia on Dec 6, 2006 17:58:25 GMT -5
It doesn't take ALL muslims to destroy America. It only may take a few hundred if an atomic bomb is involved or it may take 1/2 million to take up arms in the US in the form of a civil war. If it's the latter, I think they will lose. All we'll need is some 'hillbillies' from Tennessee with machine guns to go after them.
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Post by mrsp on Dec 6, 2006 18:02:32 GMT -5
It doesn't take ALL muslims to destroy America. Very true. But not a rationalization for being distrustful of all Muslims. The likelihood of Muslims attacking the US in anything more than terror cell strength is so small as to be virtually 0.
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Post by Koinonia on Dec 6, 2006 19:25:17 GMT -5
Terror cell strength + an atomic bomb = big problems, not virtually 0.
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Post by porky on Dec 6, 2006 19:29:11 GMT -5
And you're proud of this? So it would seem. I sure don't understand why someone would brag about being a biggot. Not something I would have thought anyone would be proud of. I've always found it interesting when one is without answers they retort to name calling. So I'm a bigot for trying to keep your behind from being blown up.........
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Post by Koinonia on Dec 6, 2006 19:31:27 GMT -5
WE'll have to take it as a compliment. ;D
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Post by cabana on Dec 6, 2006 19:37:54 GMT -5
Terror cell strength + an atomic bomb = big problems, not virtually 0. Christian white guys + atomic bomb = big problems. Do you honestly think that all, even most, terrorists are brown skinned Muslims?
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Post by Koinonia on Dec 6, 2006 19:43:41 GMT -5
Oh, no, not this again!
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Post by mrsp on Dec 6, 2006 21:51:32 GMT -5
Terror cell strength + an atomic bomb = big problems, not virtually 0. Reading comprehension problems I see. I'll try again. Your scenario of 1/2 million Muslims taking up arms in the US in the form of a civil war has virtually 0 chance of happening.
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