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Post by mrsp on Dec 16, 2006 17:50:56 GMT -5
Really? Which ones have you been to, Mrs P? What makes them modern? The ones I have been to are backward. Very backward. No, extremely backward. Excuse me but are you under the impression 1) that you are an expert on anything just because you were there and 2) that one has to go somewhere to know something about a place and 3) that I personally give a rat's azz what an expert you think you are? Not all Islamic countries make their women wear burkas as SK thinks. Not all Islamic countries want to keep their women uneducated. Not all of them are as backward as some.
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Post by diplomat on Dec 16, 2006 19:10:10 GMT -5
But interviews with 16 Iraqi women, ranging in age from 21 to 52, show that much of that postwar hope is gone. The younger women say they fear being snatched on their way to school and wonder whether their college degrees will mean anything in the new Iraq. The older women, proud of their education and careers, are watching their independence slip away. We've done SUCH a good job liberating the Iraqi people that I'm surprised other countries aren't begging for our "help".
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Post by diplomat on Dec 16, 2006 19:13:30 GMT -5
Not all of them are as backward as some. But they are ALL backward to some degree.
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Post by Koinonia on Dec 16, 2006 19:27:54 GMT -5
Really? Which ones have you been to, Mrs P? What makes them modern? The ones I have been to are backward. Very backward. No, extremely backward. Excuse me but are you under the impression 1) that you are an expert on anything just because you were there and 2) that one has to go somewhere to know something about a place and 3) that I personally give a rat's azz what an expert you think you are? Not all Islamic countries make their women wear burkas as SK thinks. Not all Islamic countries want to keep their women uneducated. Not all of them are as backward as some. Excuse me? These are your words from earlier: SK, not all Islamic nationas are as backward as you think. How the hell would you know if they are or are not backward? Have you been there? You dodge the question by attacking the poster. Answer the question. You act like you are the expert and you've never stepped foot on Arab OR muslim soil. You think you are an expert because you watch the evening news. Joke. As I've stated, yes, they are backward. You just have no idea how backward they are. If you really knew you would not be a muslim apologist for long. If you saw how they treat women with your own eyes, you would speak out against the muslim religion and its men. But, you don't because you have no clue what it's really like. SHeesshhh.
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Post by Rusty on Dec 16, 2006 21:52:01 GMT -5
There's a few US states that are pretty backwards also. There's a few US states that need to take a step or two backwards also. Californicate and NY come to mind...even Colorado, NJ and Vermont. Didn't you forget one
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2006 10:41:20 GMT -5
There's a few US states that need to take a step or two backwards also. Californicate and NY come to mind...even Colorado, NJ and Vermont. Didn't you forget one Which one? Connectiput?
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Post by Sauerkraut on Dec 17, 2006 15:17:53 GMT -5
Really? Which ones have you been to, Mrs P? What makes them modern? The ones I have been to are backward. Very backward. No, extremely backward. Excuse me but are you under the impression 1) that you are an expert on anything just because you were there and 2) that one has to go somewhere to know something about a place and 3) that I personally give a rat's azz what an expert you think you are? Not all Islamic countries make their women wear burkas as SK thinks. Not all Islamic countries want to keep their women uneducated. Not all of them are as backward as some. Most women wear some sort of coverings even in places like Turkey. In the hard line Islamic theocracy nations proper coverings are a serious thing. Nothing but eye slits and a nose air hole can be shown, if it's not worn correctly or your out in public alone or not walking 2 paces behind a man (that you must know) it's a serious violation of Islamic law. The punishment is severe.. I never said all Muslim nations are hard core, but many are. There is also no Christion theocracy nation that has laws run from the bible. (The Vatican don't count). Shrea law is done as per what the Koran sez.
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Post by Sauerkraut on Dec 17, 2006 15:19:16 GMT -5
Didn't you forget one Which one? Connectiput? Mass. and Little Rhodie no doubt.
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Post by Chevy on Dec 17, 2006 16:00:41 GMT -5
I swear, the hypocrisy is so thick in here it's a wonder some of you can breathe... Yeah, it's only Islamic nations that are 'intolerant;' not us tolerant Christian-type folks. All we ever do is throw the term 'demonic' at anyone we disagree with. Nothing intolerant about that... Good grief. And at the same time, I have to be impressed with what a GREAT job we are doing at 'improving' the lives of all those Iraqis. I can see now why they love us so much... I admit, I was wrong; it was really WORTH it to spend our grand kid's quality of life down the drain so they can pay for this little action in Iraq; I mean, look how much we have to show for the sacrifice of their futures not to mention American and Iraqi lives! Kinda gets ya right here, don't it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2006 16:04:33 GMT -5
I swear, the hypocrisy is so thick in here it's a wonder some of you can breathe... Yeah, it's only Islamic nations that are 'intolerant;' not us tolerant Christian-type folks. All we ever do is throw the term 'demonic' at anyone we disagree with. Nothing intolerant about that... Good grief. Big difference between throwing terms around and beheading people. Intolerant my azz.
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Post by Chevy on Dec 17, 2006 16:36:02 GMT -5
I was specifically referring to aimhigh, Grumpy. And are you of the opinion that only Islamics kill people they disagree with? I've been threatened by Christians right here on this board. I've also sat here and read discussions where some of our fellow posters think killing Islamics is 'doing God's work.' Explain the difference. No, not all Christians behave, or believe, that way, (and I'm sure you don't because I've heard you say so in other posts,) but this is the problem you get into when you allow faith to justify inhumanity to your fellow man, and that applies no matter WHICH 'faith' you choose to follow. JMO, YMMV and the usual coffee disclaimers apply.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2006 17:15:18 GMT -5
I was specifically referring to aimhigh, Grumpy. And are you of the opinion that only Islamics kill people they disagree with? I've been threatened by Christians right here on this board. I've also sat here and read discussions where some of our fellow posters think killing Islamics is 'doing God's work.' Explain the difference. No, not all Christians behave, or believe, that way, (and I'm sure you don't because I've heard you say so in other posts,) but this is the problem you get into when you allow faith to justify inhumanity to your fellow man, and that applies no matter WHICH 'faith' you choose to follow. JMO, YMMV and the usual coffee disclaimers apply. Some Islamic nations teach killing the "infidels"/Christians in their public schools, I've yet to see any Christian nation doing anything remotely similar.
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Post by Chevy on Dec 17, 2006 17:36:30 GMT -5
I'm guessing you are conveniently forgetting about the Crusades... Is that current? No, but it was definitely Christian. And by most accounts many of these Arab nations are not much more 'enlightened' than the Europeans were during the age of the Crusades. "Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war, With the Cross of Jesus going on before..."
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Post by heathenesque on Dec 17, 2006 17:39:33 GMT -5
Some Islamic nations teach killing the "infidels"/Christians in their public schools, I've yet to see any Christian nation doing anything remotely similar. Got a source for that? I'm sure the more "fundementalist/extremist" do. But I find it really tough to believe that mainstream Islam (of which the majority of Muslims reside), do that. Especially when the Quo'ran teaches that Christians and Jews are the "protected people".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2006 18:32:13 GMT -5
Some Islamic nations teach killing the "infidels"/Christians in their public schools, I've yet to see any Christian nation doing anything remotely similar. Got a source for that? I'm sure the more "fundementalist/extremist" do. But I find it really tough to believe that mainstream Islam (of which the majority of Muslims reside), do that. Especially when the Quo'ran teaches that Christians and Jews are the "protected people". Since ABC news is the one I generally watch every evening, I'm sure that it was they that pointed out that schools in Saudi Arabia teach their children just that...basically death to all infidels. They even interviewed some Saudi officials that admitted it. The Palestinians and Syrians do the same from accounts I've heard. Don't have source but they shouldn't be hard to find.
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